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Vietnamese New Wave (aka Asian New Wave) Part I

German Euro-disco
Vietnamese New Wave

Are any of my readers out there Vietnamese? I was turned on to this amazing genre by the Jewel of La Puente, Ngoc Nuyen. I have asked the experts here at Amoeba Hollywood about "Vietnamese New Wave" (also referred to as Asian New Wave at times) groups and no one seems even remotely familiar with any of them, with the exception of Chris Matthews, to whom "Modern Talking" sounds familiar ...

First of all, when people talk about Vietnamese New Wave they’re not talking about Vietnamese artists (although there is Thu Thuy, Lynda Trang Dai and supposedly a tieng viet cover of a Night Society song), but rather a movement that includes mostly German Euro-disco, Italo-disco and English synthpop artists who acquired, through means that no one seems to understand (although it definitely involves mixtapes) massive popularity amongst Vietnamese in Cali, Texas and Canada (and maybe elsewhere).

And whilst there’ve been at least four or five documentarians who’ve explored the popularity of still supposedly strange popularity of Morrissey amongst Mexicans and Mexican-Americans, to my knowledge no one has yet delved into the mysterious “Vietnamese New Wave” movement in which (in addition to OMD, Pet Shop Boys and Gazebo's "I Like Chopin" four German performers, with no radio play, no MTV exposure, no Amazon recommendations, no local performances came, against all odds, to achieve stardom in the Vietnamese immigrant population.

To start with, the term “new wave” as used in music means many different things to different people. History records that Sire records head Seymour Stein was the first to borrow the term from the 1950s and 60s film movements from Europe to describe the bands that played at CBGB like Blondie and the Talking Heads. Before long it seemingly became applied to any band formed after 1976 and was applied to such musically dissimilar artists as Spandau Ballet, Elvis Costello, Tom Petty, the Thompson Twins and definitely anyone with asymmetrical hair or '80s fashions regardless of their sound. By the late '80s, I don't remember anyone really using it anymore. "Alternative" had pretty much replaced it as the term for anything underground or bizarre (at least in Columbia, Missouri, where I was still living.) Anyway, in the context of Vietnamese New Wave, four performers loom large that are pretty much completely unknown by every non-Vietnamese I’ve talked to (except DJ Lance Rock, pictured below, with Vietnamese New Wave expert Ngoc-Thu Nguyen and some people who've never even heard of Modern Talking).

DJ Lance Rock and Ngoc-Thu Nguyen


Hi-NRG” was a term coined by the UK magazine Record Mirror which had a Hi-NRG chart and was used to describe songs with a staccato sequenced synthesizer as heard in Hazell Dean’s “Searching (I Got To Find a Man)” and Evelyn Thomas’s “High Energy.” This music, filtered through songs like Dead Or Alive’s “You Spin Me Round (Like a Record)” became known as Eurobeat to some, although I have never heard anyone arguing about the distinctions of these sounds until the age of the chatroom, many years later. There argue about what’s what and even Freestyle was frequently marketed as Hi-NRG in the US (as well as Latin Hip-Hop and who knows what else). Canadian band Lime were often considered Italo-disco. I’m not an expert but there is a common sound to the stars of Vietnamese New Wave, as I’m sure you’ll hear if you take the time to watch these awesome videos.

In my research I have found that they have a “New Wave Night” at the Shark Club in Costa Mesa on the first Friday of every month (in the Red Room) and it's specifically Vietnamese New Wave so I’m going to have to check it out for further research and get back to you.


Bad Boys Blue

Bad Boys Blue were formed in Cologne, Germany in 1984 by producer Tony Hendrik and his lyricist wife, Karin van Harren. The group itself was comprised of a British, an American and a Jamaican. They became most popular in Russia, South Africa and Ukraine.







C.C. Catch
C.C. Catch, born Caroline Catharina Müller in Oss, Netherlands, moved to Germany in the 1970s and eventually teamed up with writer Dieter Bohlen in 1985, who produced all of her hits (well, hits in Belgium, Germany, Switzerland and Yugoslavia) until they fell out in 1989.







Modern Talking

Modern Talking were formed in Berlin by Dieter Bohlen and Thomas Anders in 1984. They split in 1987 after achieving considerable popularity in Argentina, Austria, Finland, Iran, Scandinavia, South Africa and Switzerland. In the UK they were marketed toward fans of gay duos like Erasure, the Pet Shop Boys and trios Bronski Beat and Culture Club despite their heterosexuality. In their videos and live performances they usually consciously appeared with a measured distance between them fearing that their assumed gay image was holding them back. In 1985, Thomas Anders began wearing a necklace which spelled out his girlfriend’s name in gold letters.








Sandra
Sandra Cretu (born Sandra Ann Lauer in Saarbrücken, Germany) was in the disco group Arabesque and before she began performing solo as Sandra in 1984. After teaming up with her then boyfriend Michael Cretu she became immensely popular in Germany, Israel, Lebanon and Switzerland. In America she is still mostly known, if known at all, as the female voice in “Sadeness,” the hit single of her by-then-husband’s group Enigma. She’s the one whispering “Sade, dit moi. Sade donne moi.”

 


Go here for Part II of Vietnamese New Wave!
Posted by Eric Brightwell on January 8, 2008 at 10:14pm | Comments (18)

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Comments

Neat blog, but what's the picture of Lance Rock really got to do with any of it? There was a mention of a Chris Matthews, but where's his picture?

Posted by on February 11, 2008 at 02:41pm

"Anyway, in the context of Vietnamese New Wave, four performers loom large that are pretty much completely unknown by every non-Vietnamese I’ve talked to (except Lance Rock, below)." Lance had heard of all the bands (except Gina T) although he said that he likes a little more bite to his music, or something very similar. I don't have any pictures of CM.

Posted by eric on February 11, 2008 at 04:54pm

Interesting how you came up with this excellent description of Vietnamese New Wave. I grew up on this stuff, and now I can point to this blog when trying to explain to my white American friends what the heck this music is. :-) It's kinda a mix of Barry Manilow and Erasure. Thanks for doing the research!

Posted by Myleen on March 12, 2008 at 11:26pm

How did you get into the music? Mixtapes? This is the real mystery to me of how this obscure German scene...

Posted by eric on March 13, 2008 at 03:18pm

I didn't know about this , but it sounds pretty interesting. I've heard this new album of Geoff Westen , Vidiots-Tune In! and it is very 80's so I thought maybe it could be considered new wave, but mmmm i'm not sure, maybe pop rock??? it sounds very cool though. If you could check it out and share your comments with me about this I'll love it!!
www.myspace.com/geoffwesten

Posted by Angie on May 22, 2008 at 02:55pm

you can find a lot of these songs online, like via limewire. just type into the "artist" search names like the ones above, plus gazebo, who did one of the new wave classics of all time: "i like chopin." back in the 1980s, in the vietnamese american community, you could buy cassettes of pirated music in the "new wave" series (i think it went up to at least #48). you could also buy the real thing--albums!--in vietnamese music stores. you can still hear this music today in vietnamese beauty salons, too. the remixed versions are awesome.

Posted by viet on January 16, 2009 at 02:47pm

other people are curious too about these songs: http://www.discomusic.com/forums/ask-others-identify-disco-song/27004-help-vietnamese-new-wave-tape-track.html

Posted by viet on January 16, 2009 at 02:53pm

eric! i have ALWAYS tried to explain this genre to people - i usually steer anyone who's interested in the sounds of the VN new wave to the JIVE BUNNY AND THE MASTERMIXERS comp. my aunts in HB grew up on the stuff, along with Modern Talking ("You're my heart, you're my soul") and CC Catch, who i think Dalena ripped off...) I think there's an italo appreciation in there as well, even if we didn't know it at the time.

Posted by em on February 2, 2009 at 01:42pm

I was in fact one of the "Vietnamese New Wave" DJ in the 80's. Surprisingly, this music genre is still quite popular today.

Posted by Ian Nguyen on March 24, 2009 at 04:43pm

i'm a club owner in houston tx and would like to put together a night just for this genre. any input contacts etc...greatly appriciated.

ak@blvd610.com

Posted by ak on June 4, 2009 at 12:12pm

I listened to and watched a bunch of new wave/italo disco videos on youtube and though they have a few songs here and there, the mixtapes that were passed around when i was growing up in orange county among friends was FAR better than what ive found on the internet.....FAR BETTER!!

Posted by orange county80s on June 6, 2009 at 10:32pm

thank buddha for this blog!!! =p...i'm searching high and low for this wonderful music...brings back my childhood...please post more Ian...the mix ones with vietnamese is so hard to find..thanx guys

Posted by tony on July 25, 2009 at 11:20pm

Shark Club in Costa Mesa, CA, is the only club in America that still plays so called VN New Wave music twice a month (1st & 3rd Fridays). Be warned to come early or you will not get in!!!!

Posted by David on August 7, 2009 at 09:37am

I have a number of cassettes that are from Orange County of Vietnamese artists playing "new wave" music. Very synthy, not euro at all. Some are part of a series called "NEW WAVE" that has like part 1 through 20 or something. Some others are just regular bands that play a variety of music. After each song title it will list the genre for example disco, cha cha, rock and many of them have 1 or 2 listed as new wave. Good stuff. Definatly in the vein of OMD synth driven stuff.

Posted by PaulC on August 12, 2009 at 05:05pm

Anh Nguyen- do you still DJ? If so, where? I like the mixes.

Posted by eric on August 14, 2009 at 09:33pm

Eric, I retired from Dj's since the late 90's but because of the "Vietnamese New Wave" comeback, I got sucked back into it again :). I still DJ for mostly private gigs but also spin once a month at Shark Club in Costa Mesa, CA. I am in the process of organizing a big event called "Keep On Music-A New Wave & 80's" Theme party in Southern California sometimes in October. This will definitely brings back a lot of memories.

Posted by Ian Nguyen on August 15, 2009 at 10:19pm

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